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As long as unfair prices aren’t attached to it I wouldn’t mind as much…but it’s still the government controlling the law abiding citizens and that’s what I’m (a conservative) is against. I doubt this legislation will get very far but it’s scary that it could..because it’s punishes the law abiding people more than the criminals.

I agree with you. Do you agree with this though?

How about, there is no tax on the ammo.

But…

There is a tracking code.

Sound fair enough?

So how about this compromise.

I agree. There is NO REASON prices should rise for bullets, UNLESS, it’s SUPPLY and DEMAND affecting the price. I know it doesn’t cost .05 cents per bullet to put that code on… that’s a tax, and we don’t need it. Agree 100% with you.

BUT… and this is a bit BUT:

I don’t see why they can’t put tracking codes on the bullets though. I think that’s a good idea, just like have a license plate on your car is a good idea, just like fingerprints are good ideas, and just like passports are good ideas…

If someone I know gets shot, I want to know where that bullet was last.

Then I’m going over to find that person with my own tracked bullets.

Prices will go up more than a few cents….5 cents per round is what I’m hearing…50 rounds per box ups the price per box $2.50…myself and most other gun owners buy several boxes at a time…so we’re talk about 5,10,15 dollars per transaction. I’m not paying that much more per box (prices have been going up as it is) so what will happen is people will buy less ammo…and in return they will produce less which means less workers in the ammo factory…and possible job cuts in local gun shops (which do not make a lot of money to begin with). It’s this crazy left wing idea that taking guns, ammo, etc will reduce crime…and it will until the criminals find a way around it AND they will find a way around it. I’ve lived in many places around the world being a former army brat and even the places where it’s rare that regular people have firearms STILL have problems with crime. It’s not going away for criminals it’s a job just like you and I go to work everyday…that’s what they do. Jacking up prices isn’t going to help reduce crime (if that’s the point of this legislation).

My comments are not contradictory at all. They might be if it were true that guns might help fight the people I am referring to, but unfortuneately bringing guns to the type of situation I am trying to open everyone’s eyes to would be all but useless. Perhaps if people had the technology to create an EMP (electromagnetic pulse) coupled with heavy firepower, that might be of some use, but from what I understand they have figured out how to avoid being affected by an EMP.

I will not further dilute this discussion on gun laws. Many are useful, some have positives and negatives all wrapped up into a nice little package.

Debate away.

Kyle

point taken. But I think the price of ammo is going up, what, a few cents? It won’t really cost much, nor affect the demand for bullets. And I don’t think it would affect manufacturing jobs… I mean, we are talking a few cents on ammo. And I think the demand for ammo is pretty inelastic, meaning, a small price increase doesn’t really affect the demand that much. I mean, a person only needs a few spare bullets for the intruders that may or may not break in.

Yea, it’s illegal to shoot people. But only if you are caught do you get convicted. I want to make it easier for the police to track you if one of those bullets ends up somewhere where it shouldn’t.

It’s the same concept as FedEx or the Post Office with the tracking codes… I like to know where my package is, who signed it last, and where it is now, and when it is coming… tracking codes will make the police more efficient in solving crimes and that efficiency saves money…

But your point is well taken. Maybe it’ll just create a black market for ammo, this really isn’t my field of expertise. I’d have to see more intelligent, peer-reviewed research on the subject.

“The only people who should have a problem with the police keeping tabs on our firearms are people who intend to commit crimes and engage in illicit activity with their weapons.”

This silly ammo law will drive the cost of ammo up, potentially cost Americans in the firearm manufacturing industry jobs, and really only inconvenience those of us who actually follow the existing laws. I mean, do you really think a person who is willing to use a gun in a violent crime is going to worry about the “firearm accountability act”?

Last time I checked, it was pretty much illegal to shoot people. Last time I checked, fully automatic weapons were pretty much illegal. I can’t really see how the ammo accountability act is going to do anything other than be a pain in the neck to those of us law-abiding hunters and gun-owners, and potentially damage a significant portion of the U.S. economy.

You seem like a bright person, but your comments seem a little contradictory. I mean, if you truly think we are living in a dictatorship, then it would seem to me that you would be a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, because (IMHO) it was written to prevent EXACTLY what you are describing…an oppressive government (or dictatorship, in your words).

Again, gun control laws really only punish the folks who actually ABIDE BY THE LAWS. We need guns to protect us from those who do not follow the law (and that includes the Second Amendment).

The boost that gun enthusiasts and hunters give the economy surely doesn’t hurt either. Oddly enough, the election of Barack Obama has been the best thing to happen to the firearm industry in years. It would be IDIOTIC to pass laws hampering one of the few thriving industries we still actually have here in America (yes, there are still many firearm manufacturers in the United States…not to mention hunting lodges, gun shops, and the numerous other businesses that profit directly or indirectly from hunting and the shooting sports).

Guns are flying off the shelves in record numbers in fear of stricter gun control laws. In fact, I tried to order an AR 15 a few months ago and was told that the manufacturer was nearly a year behind on existing orders. It’s getting harder to find semi auto pistols for the same reason. Kind of ironic isn’t it?